Hmm, I can't say specifically why but basically ANY canned food is going to be boiled and heated to hell, killing almost all the nutrients. I didn't know that before but I was reading all about it just the other day because my wife's parents were trying to tell me I can't ferment fish because I'll get botulism... Turns out botulism's so rare it's a joke: in the first place it's the least likely sickness for you to get if you're eating preserved food. It only happens if you never let any air inside your container (ex. the Swedish surströmming, which is canned fish that is never opened until 6 to 12 months later), and/or you're fermenting with oil (aka also no air), and/or you're not using salt, citrus or anything else antibacterial, and/or you've boiled your food — because botulism is really weak and is "killed" if there's almost any other bacteria already there, but pasteurizing kills the good bacteria that would have defeated the botulism (botulism itself withstands temperatures higher than we can actually cook food). So every single incident of botulism I could find to do with food had to do with boiled, canned food (ex. cooked tomatoes becoming canned tomato sauce) or the person literally not letting any air into the container ever (raw meat but in a plastic container that was never opened). It's even appeared a ton of times in grocery-store canned food.
AND WHAT'S MORE, they claim the amount of infected food you eat directly affects how bad your symptoms are and how likely you are to die. Except there's even been cases of groups of people all eating the same food at dinner, with the guy who ate twice as much as everyone else having absolutely no symptoms while everyone else had to go to the hospital. And the first cases of babies getting botulism only started being reported extremely recently (like since the 60's or something, I forget, but really recently). Supposedly, when it's in babies it's because they haven't gotten enough good stomach bacteria to beat out the botulism, but they ate something like honey which had a slightly larger amount of botulism spores than normal food (the spores are literally everywhere, even in dirt, but they're just usually not growing into the actual botulism). So I'm thinking, maybe how much people are affected also has to do with their stomach bacteria. I found a few forum threads with people thinking the same thing but apparently no one's ever studied this so...
I don't know about zingers but I know Hostess anything is pure poison lol. I always wanted to try some Hostess things when I was a kid because there were so many commercials for them and "everyone" ate them, but by the time I did ever try them I realized they're super disgusting. I really don't know how anyone can eat those pre-made grocery store cookies and things - ignoring how unhealthy they are, they're just dry and gross!
Also I think potato flour's probably good, I'm super sensitive to any "unhealthy" food now but I don't think I've ever had a problem with potato flour.
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Date: 2017-04-29 07:22 pm (UTC)AND WHAT'S MORE, they claim the amount of infected food you eat directly affects how bad your symptoms are and how likely you are to die. Except there's even been cases of groups of people all eating the same food at dinner, with the guy who ate twice as much as everyone else having absolutely no symptoms while everyone else had to go to the hospital. And the first cases of babies getting botulism only started being reported extremely recently (like since the 60's or something, I forget, but really recently). Supposedly, when it's in babies it's because they haven't gotten enough good stomach bacteria to beat out the botulism, but they ate something like honey which had a slightly larger amount of botulism spores than normal food (the spores are literally everywhere, even in dirt, but they're just usually not growing into the actual botulism). So I'm thinking, maybe how much people are affected also has to do with their stomach bacteria. I found a few forum threads with people thinking the same thing but apparently no one's ever studied this so...
I don't know about zingers but I know Hostess anything is pure poison lol. I always wanted to try some Hostess things when I was a kid because there were so many commercials for them and "everyone" ate them, but by the time I did ever try them I realized they're super disgusting. I really don't know how anyone can eat those pre-made grocery store cookies and things - ignoring how unhealthy they are, they're just dry and gross!
Also I think potato flour's probably good, I'm super sensitive to any "unhealthy" food now but I don't think I've ever had a problem with potato flour.